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Food for thought?

Again, here be spoilers and speculation... Also, this is my not-so-inner shipper talking, so be wary of that as well.


Alright, I admit it, I haven't seen the episode yet. It's not my fault, though, because I had every intention to watch but once it started my computer crashed down, I had to restart it and thus missed the bigger part of the episode (yes, it was that slow). I only came back to the scene where Dean walks up to Cas and hugs him and then I proceeded to sob grossly for the next three hours or so. See? Totally not my fault.

I am very, very very very suspicious of that particular scene, however (by that scene I of course mean the one where Dean and Cas hug and declare their undying love to each other). Mostly because based on experience, the show doesn't give us nice things. We can't have nice things. There is always a catch and a new showrunner won't change that with a snap of his fingers (but seriously, could he?) - that's just how the show works. It's strange for us to get what we so desperately wanted and didn't even dare to hope for by the second episode, so there must be something more to it, and I can't say I'm positive that it will be... Well, positive. 

Firstly, we don't see Dean do these emotional displays, not very often and only under certain circumstances. Sure, it can be explained by his storyline and behaviour last season (because sometimes you really don't know what you've got until it's gone), and that he might have spent almost a year looking for Cas (since they have spent a year in Purgatory and Dean and Benny have been together looking for the angel for a while at least, all this time having a way out), but still, something stinks. We see Dean so happy in that scene - what must have happened for him to become the walking talking mortal combat impression he is now topside?

Basically, I'm terrified that he and Benny did actually need Cas for something, used him up and watched him die bloody (as the Winchesters tend to do, nicely pointed out by Crowley - and oh, have you seen Dean's face? He knows Crowley is right), and that all Dean said had been an act to get Cas to cooperate with them. Or they are actually making Cas to be the Mary to Dean's John, because I don't think Dean has ever been closer to his father in his behaviour and the only explanation I see so far is him shutting down over losing Cas again.

But if it turns out that I'm right, that Dean used Cas in such cold blood to reach his own ends, and if the show tears the rug from under our feet like that, after giving us this and toying with us so cruelly... I am going to be very, very disappointed. And depressed.

I'm already having nightmares about it! Fuck, I so should not be as involved in this as I am, damn it.


Date: 2012-10-12 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juppschmitz.livejournal.com
But but but.... in 8.01 Dean said something like "Something happened to him... he let go..." and then, right at the end of 8.02 it looked like Dean tried to hold on to Cas! I refuse to believe he just used him to get himself and Benny out. He insisted they find Cas even when Benny said something like "Three's a crowd..." So there. Okay, Dean did change (and man, I'm so impressed by all those signs of how he changed!), but consciously deceiving Cas?? Come on, guys!

Date: 2012-10-12 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seeing-ghosts.livejournal.com
Yesss, contradict me because I want to be wrong. No, really. I'm not even saying this is what I think will 100% happen; I'm just scared it will.

I don't see Dean betraying Cas like that, not at this point. But I also don't see any other explanation for his enormous angst over everyone insisting that he only "uses people up and watches them die bloody" and seriously? This triggering the ending scene of the episode? Hell yeah, it made me nervous.

I am not hating on Dean, god no, I love Dean more than any other character on the show. But something must have happened between him and Cas for Dean to make the comment about "something happening to him down there" and him "just... letting go." Because Cas didn't look as if he just let go. Am I making sense?

I don't even know. I'm emotional.

Date: 2012-10-12 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juppschmitz.livejournal.com
Oh bb, I understand you completely!

You make all the emotional sense in the world and I completely get where you're coming from. That last scene kind of confused me too. And Dean's angsting over what Kevin (ah, but was that note really from Kevin, though?^^) and Crowley said. And the none too clear ending. I just REFUSE to believe that Dean could ever consciously betray/let down Cas.

*nods, crosses arms and stomps foot*

Date: 2012-10-12 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seeing-ghosts.livejournal.com
<3 I'm glad to know I'm making at least some sense!

[...] but was that note really from Kevin, though?

That is a... Good question. We'll see about that, but the truth still stands - it hurt Dean , because Dean believes it to be true. Which is a) really fucking depressing and b) really fucking scary.

I guess I will just cry about how beautiful Dean and Cas's reunion has been. And have nightmares about my previously mentioned concerns. ;D

Date: 2012-10-12 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juppschmitz.livejournal.com
Here, have a comfort pic:

deancaskissingpurgatory

Date: 2012-10-12 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seeing-ghosts.livejournal.com


<3 So done with everything. Also, that Loki!blade-spear-thingy is killing me. ;D

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