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Wow, I'm late on this one!

I have to admit, I expected to hate this episode. Lately, my second-hand embarassement tolerance is pretty low - especially when it comes to characters I like - so I had issues with it and generally, the jokes didn't seem as funny to me as they probably should have been. But the episode itself keeps getting better everytime I watch it and while I wouldn't call it the best episode of the season so far, it certainly ranks among them (not for the humor factor, though!) 

Blah, blah, blah, spoilers below, you know how this goes. 

Firstly - how many fanfics got kripke'd by this episode? I mean, Cas leaves heaven to become a hunter, Sam gets a girl and buys a house...? It makes me wonder a little if the writers are actually doing this on purpose, if they found and browsed, like, AO3 and took notes and write the episodes accordingly? ;D And another thing, do I want that to happen? (No, I don't...) 

And I have to admit that surprisingly, I did like Sam's flashbacks this time (despite their soap opera feel). I liked Amelia, and her weirdo father, and Sam's awkwardness - but I still think she's not real. Despite some of the spoilers that talk about Sam, Amelia and her recently revived husband (what a nice Dean parallel, by the way, coming back from the dead so suddenly) forming a "love triangle of sorts" I still think Amelia is just a product of Sam's mind - and this episode just kept proving me right. One flashback triggered by the (tattooed!) nursing home worker saying, "A lot of these people, they just live in their own heads, it's like, maybe the real world was too much for them and they just run and hide," another one by Dean saying that, "it seems to me like dude's living in a dream world," and then, of course, Sam's whole speech to Mr Jones (and Cas, too, even though Sam didn't even realize) about not running away from your life and living in a dream world. Talking from experience there, Sammy?

The whole episode has this on-going theme of dreams vs. reality and everything paralleled everything (Cas's whole story in this episode mirroring Sam's choices in the past year, Dean's return being mirrored by Don's return...). 

I like parallels so I think it was... Nice. And interesting to watch. 

And the best joke of the episode was definitely Dean's, "What's the word, Cas?" and Cas's reply, "It's a shortened version of my name." I like Cas's deadpan humor and people who say he doesn't have on just do not get it. 

Date: 2012-12-01 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
SAM HAS FLASHBACKS AT THE WEIRDEST MOMENTS OKAY. Like Dean has flashbacks because something reminds him of something in Purgatory. Sam has flashbacks at the strangest moments (bladder infection?).

I really enjoyed this episode, mostly because of Cas minus endless angst, and man oh man do I love awkward!well-intentioned!Cas. And people thinking Sam (or Dean) was in the army. And all those references to John being a Marine I just. Happiness.

I feel like I had more to say but I'm hungover and the angst factor was low in this episode (which I'm frankly fine with), but I wish Cas had just stuck around. Just because he's so awkward and wonderful, even when he's not.

Date: 2012-12-02 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Hahahah, oh god, the bladder infection induced flashback just killed me (and I generally chose to ignore it, because I can't find any good reason for a bladder infection to induce it in the first place, and thinking about it too hard was hurting my brain. But yeah).

Cas is a precious bundle of issues this episode - is there anything more heartbreaking than a suicidal angel? I don't think so. And you don't enjoy angst?! HOW? XD

All the John references made all fuzzy inside, too; Cas reading his journal ;u; (Cas going through Dean's things, Cas watching over Dean, Cas Cas Cas... I'm fine.)

I'm hungover now, too, so I feel your pain. What is eloquencyyy?!
Edited Date: 2012-12-02 10:12 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-12-02 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
It's 6 am, I haven't slept, and I'm so sick I can't see straight, so I'll come back with more to say when I'm alive but suffice to say "I'LL WATCH OVER YOU."

Oh Cas. <3

Date: 2012-12-02 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, that line. I am ~emotional about that line, because the way Cas says it - as a reply to Dean's, "Well, I need my four hours, so..." - so automatically is making me think that it was something Dean needed in Purgatory. That he wouldn't sleep, or would sleep really fucking badly, without Cas watching over him, and Cas expects that to still be true, even topside, and Dean is just really uncomfortable with it in front of Sam, and... And it's making me ~emotional.

(I'm just saying that Dean looks really fucking tired before they found Cas, but once Cas is with them Dean looks so much better and more rested... Just saying.)

I hope you'll feel better soon. :)

Date: 2012-12-02 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Oh God, I'm having poorly timed protective!Cas feelings. Oh no.

Date: 2012-12-02 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Guess I'll just have to work on my lying, then... ;D

Date: 2012-12-02 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Your icon is cruel and unusual.

what is it with emotionally compromising icons today?!

Date: 2012-12-02 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
It's an icon where I am Sam and you are Dean and everything is ~affectionate. XD

What emotionally compromising icons do you speak of? I know of no such thing... ;D

Date: 2012-12-03 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
One of my best friends recently compared me to Dean, and all pleased, I was like, "rly?!" and she was like, "Yeah, you know, with the drinking and being dead inside? Plus you've got a leather jacket."


*hug for you!Sam*

Date: 2012-12-03 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Aw, hun. If it makes you feel less dead inside, I don't think Dean is really dead inside... ;D

Date: 2012-12-03 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
My emotional deadness is carefully cultivated and relieved only by tea and Bill Bryson. And good fic. ;)


Date: 2012-12-01 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I don't buy into the theory that Amelia isn't real. Sam couldn't have dreamed up a much more perfect woman if she were just a figment of his imagination. There was too much awkwardness for it not to be authentic. Plus, we definitely saw him leave the house with her sleeping in the first episode, and he keeps stalking her on the internet, so we see parts of her in real-time, not just the soft-focus past. As a parallel to Fred's escape from reality, Sam's life with Amelia still works: after all, Dean and Sam's life in turn is an escape for Cas and no one would argue they aren't real!

Date: 2012-12-02 10:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
If the theory were true, I doubt it would have been conscious choice from Sam's part; more like something that's happened to him (a mental breakdown of sorts) - so I don't think it's that much of a stretch for Sam's subconsciousness to come up with an imperfect woman. Imperfect is all the Winchesters know, and as Hallucifer said at the beginning of S7 - it had to be a mess, otherwise he wouldn't believe it was his life. ;)

And really, if Amelia were just a product of Sam's imagination, if he already dreamed up this whole another life and reality, it wouldn't be too hard to believe that he can imagine looking her up on the internet, or having a "love triangle" with her husband.

But frankly, I'm not saying this is what's going to happen; I'm just saying it would be a nice plot-twist that I'd like to see happen on the show. You can, of course, believe whatever you want, just like me. :)

Date: 2012-12-04 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldn't be too hard to believe that he can imagine looking her up on the internet...

Aha! - *butts in* - But Dean smelled the dog in the car! How to explain that away?

See, my new pet theory is that all is real, but the angels resurrected Don so Sam would leave Amelia and get back in the game. Third wheel, not really a good thing, right?

*loves all the theories about Sam's flashbacks*

Date: 2012-12-04 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Shhh, woman, shhh! XD I just really ship Sam/imaginary!Amelia and you all keep blowing holes in my ship! XD

But yes, yours is a good point. Resurrecting people, fucking up things, the angel business.

Third wheels seem to be a theme of Season 8, too, don't you think? Dean/Cas/Benny, Dean/Sam/Benny, Dean/Cas/Sam, Sam/Amelia/Don... XD

Date: 2012-12-04 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Aaahh, no, bb, don't despair! *pets you*

See, what could have happened was Sam hit the dog, took him to the vet in the car - hence the smell! - saw the vet, instantly fell in love with her and... made up a relationship with her!

VoilĂ !

Date: 2012-12-04 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
*Lets self be petted*

That's what I think! And Dean just has super-inhuman-enhanced sense of smell because of Purgatory. XD Yep! Fixing fanon-plotholes like sirs.

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